needhelp!
02-12 04:09 PM
This is essentially what we got in July07, and this can be a great pain relief. Since it was done in July07, there is already a precedent for it?? Would it be an administrative fix then? Just a note , IV already has this as one of the things we are working to change in law, but I was wondering if it could be admin only fix.
I initially posted below text to reply another thread, but the title is not much relavant. So I decided to create a new thread here:
As a background, the pre-application of AOS (file 485 without PD being current) is mentioned in a DHS newsletter here (credit goes to kate123 for finding it).
http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1233353528835.shtm
Here is the text:
Legal Immigration Benefit Backlogs. What progress has been made in reducing the significant backlogs that had developed in the adjudication of naturalization petitions and adjustment of status (green card) applications? Which regional offices still lag behind in making progress toward target processing times, and what specific steps are recommended for providing priority resources to those offices?
Please provide an assessment of information-sharing with the Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs on projected adjustment caseloads, to be used by that Bureau in setting each month’s cutoff dates on waiting lists for immigration categories that are limited by a yearly quota. What steps have been taken and what further steps are recommended to make sure that the full quota of permanent immigration spaces is used each fiscal year? What regulatory or legislative changes (including a possible pre-application filing procedure for adjustment cases) are recommended to facilitate caseload planning and make optimum use of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services adjudication capacity?
This is a great finding I've read that page, but never noticed the Secretary of DHS specifically mentioned Pre-Application of AOS. Now that they do have this in their mind, can we start working on that? I'd love to share a few thoughts I have on it:
From the lessons we learnt from the past, the most important thing for this admin fix to fly is compromise: there must be kind of restriction for the pre-application AOS. A few examples I could think of are:
- The person has been in the country LEGALLY for more than a number of years, OR
- The PD are more than a certain number years old, OR
- I-140 has been approved, OR
- Must have MS or higher for a US college (just for argument's sake, please don't flame me).
The key is to not allow everyone to file pre-application or it'll be drown in a media storm and draw backfires. Yet it gives you a certain promise that you'll be able to file pre-application once you are here for a certain period of time, so everyone has hope and those who has suffered more would have an almost certain chance to do so.
IV core, should we work on this? This is the first time we see pre-application of AOS appears in official file and I believe it's a great opportunity.
I initially posted below text to reply another thread, but the title is not much relavant. So I decided to create a new thread here:
As a background, the pre-application of AOS (file 485 without PD being current) is mentioned in a DHS newsletter here (credit goes to kate123 for finding it).
http://www.dhs.gov/ynews/releases/pr_1233353528835.shtm
Here is the text:
Legal Immigration Benefit Backlogs. What progress has been made in reducing the significant backlogs that had developed in the adjudication of naturalization petitions and adjustment of status (green card) applications? Which regional offices still lag behind in making progress toward target processing times, and what specific steps are recommended for providing priority resources to those offices?
Please provide an assessment of information-sharing with the Department of State’s Bureau of Consular Affairs on projected adjustment caseloads, to be used by that Bureau in setting each month’s cutoff dates on waiting lists for immigration categories that are limited by a yearly quota. What steps have been taken and what further steps are recommended to make sure that the full quota of permanent immigration spaces is used each fiscal year? What regulatory or legislative changes (including a possible pre-application filing procedure for adjustment cases) are recommended to facilitate caseload planning and make optimum use of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services adjudication capacity?
This is a great finding I've read that page, but never noticed the Secretary of DHS specifically mentioned Pre-Application of AOS. Now that they do have this in their mind, can we start working on that? I'd love to share a few thoughts I have on it:
From the lessons we learnt from the past, the most important thing for this admin fix to fly is compromise: there must be kind of restriction for the pre-application AOS. A few examples I could think of are:
- The person has been in the country LEGALLY for more than a number of years, OR
- The PD are more than a certain number years old, OR
- I-140 has been approved, OR
- Must have MS or higher for a US college (just for argument's sake, please don't flame me).
The key is to not allow everyone to file pre-application or it'll be drown in a media storm and draw backfires. Yet it gives you a certain promise that you'll be able to file pre-application once you are here for a certain period of time, so everyone has hope and those who has suffered more would have an almost certain chance to do so.
IV core, should we work on this? This is the first time we see pre-application of AOS appears in official file and I believe it's a great opportunity.
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ilwaiting
11-08 12:58 PM
Pres Bush in a press conference, answering a reporter's question replies he has better chances at CIR now that Dems are in control.
Good eh
Good eh
rajuram
11-25 03:54 PM
Lets start with #4, may be a snail mail letter campaign?
Excellent thinking. :)
What should be done to make this happen? Any suggestions? ;)
Excellent thinking. :)
What should be done to make this happen? Any suggestions? ;)
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malibuguy007
04-26 01:18 AM
I just emailed 8 friends asking for contributions and sent them the link to this thread. Let us try and get 2 extra people along with each one of us.
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walking_dude
10-19 10:05 AM
I saw your PM - just now - and replied. Thanks for attending the meet.
These 3 members are from a different pool. IV gave us phone numbers of Michigan members registered at the site. We have been calling and E-mailing these members about tommorrows meet.
The response received has been encouraging. Lot of members who couldn't participate in the first meet, did volunteer to participate in the future meets and other activities. We have created enough buzz about chapter and reached out to a wider audience ( some even unaware of the thread here). Three members (different from the three prospective attendees above) have joined our current google group.
We are also running a Newsletter today to registered IV Michigan members. We aren't leaving any stone unturned to get maximum possible members to attend.
I did PM you that I will be coming.
These 3 members are from a different pool. IV gave us phone numbers of Michigan members registered at the site. We have been calling and E-mailing these members about tommorrows meet.
The response received has been encouraging. Lot of members who couldn't participate in the first meet, did volunteer to participate in the future meets and other activities. We have created enough buzz about chapter and reached out to a wider audience ( some even unaware of the thread here). Three members (different from the three prospective attendees above) have joined our current google group.
We are also running a Newsletter today to registered IV Michigan members. We aren't leaving any stone unturned to get maximum possible members to attend.
I did PM you that I will be coming.
gk_2000
03-28 09:01 PM
Let us disagree on this, whats that supposed to be a back-handed negative comment?
not so complex.. I was referring to this dot concept. Never heard of that anywhere LOL
not so complex.. I was referring to this dot concept. Never heard of that anywhere LOL
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suniel2008
05-19 07:13 PM
keep it coming guys greatwork IVBelow is the response I receieved from senetor, not sure if my email was read becuase I don't see any word about legal immigratnts in the response,
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Thank you for taking the time to share your views regarding immigration. I would like to take the opportunity to respond to this important issue.
There are currently over 38 million foreign-born individuals living in the United States, which accounts for nearly 13 percent of the total U.S. population. Nearly one-third of this foreign-born population is estimated to consist of undocumented or illegal residents; a clear indication that our immigration system is broken. While a number of bills have been introduced concerning various elements of immigration reform, the issue has yet to come before the full Senate. I am currently evaluating a number of policy options, and will remain mindful of your thoughts on this subject as we proceed in the 111th Congress.
Again, thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with me regarding this issue. It is an honor and privilege to serve the people of the great State of Florida in the United States Senate. I take great pride in being a native Floridian, and I look forward to the tremendous opportunity to better the lives of all Floridians. I assure you I will work hard to represent our state to the best of my ability in the U.S. Senate. If I can be of any further help to you, please do not hesitate to contact me.
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Thank you for taking the time to share your views regarding immigration. I would like to take the opportunity to respond to this important issue.
There are currently over 38 million foreign-born individuals living in the United States, which accounts for nearly 13 percent of the total U.S. population. Nearly one-third of this foreign-born population is estimated to consist of undocumented or illegal residents; a clear indication that our immigration system is broken. While a number of bills have been introduced concerning various elements of immigration reform, the issue has yet to come before the full Senate. I am currently evaluating a number of policy options, and will remain mindful of your thoughts on this subject as we proceed in the 111th Congress.
Again, thank you for taking the time to share your concerns with me regarding this issue. It is an honor and privilege to serve the people of the great State of Florida in the United States Senate. I take great pride in being a native Floridian, and I look forward to the tremendous opportunity to better the lives of all Floridians. I assure you I will work hard to represent our state to the best of my ability in the U.S. Senate. If I can be of any further help to you, please do not hesitate to contact me.
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makemygc
07-06 11:32 AM
Postings on this thread are no longer related to the title of the thread. If people has nothing to add to this, please close this thread.
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hydboy77
02-13 05:55 PM
You are reading my post selectively and not in its entirety. I did not say EAD is waste and useless, I said EAD is waste and useless without the removal of semilar or same job requirement in AC21 as USCIS will sooner or later deny AOS based on semilar\same job requirement. Do you know how many RFE\denial notices have been issued by USCIS to EAD\Ac21 workers? There is an entire thread running into several pages related to that. Scores of people wrote to USCIS ombudsman complaining about USCIS issuing denial notice to people whose I140 was revoked by previous employer even though Ac21 says AOS continues even if I140 is rovoked by previous employer. There are instances where USCIS has issued rfe to prove they are in a same\semilar job. History has shown USCIS uses issues like same\semilar job to kick people out. Based on the IO adjudicating your case, based on the economic climate etc USCIS has made life difficuly (current h1b crackdown is a example).
What I am saying is bring in protection to AOS by
-removing the same or semilar job requirement in AC21
-making sure USCIS does not deny AOS when previous employer revokes aproved i140.(even though ac21 says aos cannot be denied, USCIS is sending denail notice).
Yes EAD is absolutely better than H1b but not for long, when people start using EAD instead of H1b, USCIS will start denying AOS based on Same\semilar job or other grey areas (not working on EAD because of lay off) then you are back to square one. If you are on EAD and AOS is denied you are out of status like H1b. Close the loopholes first before you open the pre filing AOS. Your statement regarding not work at all on EAD is not correct. USCIS can issue rfe\denial notice for lack of job. I hope it was true that it does not matter if you are not working at all on EAD.
I read through your reply, however, I found it extremely hard for me to accept your points. You've been probably on EAD too long to remember what a dire condition you came from as an H1B worker. Let's look at it:
As an AOS, you can:
- Work for any employer
- Not work at all
- Travel out of the country without worrying visa delay
- When you got laid off, no need to worry about being out of status or restarting GC
As an H1B worker:
- If you are laid off, everything, years of wait, thousands of dollars, down the drain, and the whole family becomes out of status immediately. And in this dire economy, this is a sword hanging on the head of every H1B worker.
- Worry about re-entry visa each time you travel
With such a huge different, I can hardly convience myself that EAD is 'useless' or 'waste'. True, you'll need to work for same or similar job, but compared to the benefit, it is not nearly as big a problem faced by H1B workers day by day.
What I am saying is bring in protection to AOS by
-removing the same or semilar job requirement in AC21
-making sure USCIS does not deny AOS when previous employer revokes aproved i140.(even though ac21 says aos cannot be denied, USCIS is sending denail notice).
Yes EAD is absolutely better than H1b but not for long, when people start using EAD instead of H1b, USCIS will start denying AOS based on Same\semilar job or other grey areas (not working on EAD because of lay off) then you are back to square one. If you are on EAD and AOS is denied you are out of status like H1b. Close the loopholes first before you open the pre filing AOS. Your statement regarding not work at all on EAD is not correct. USCIS can issue rfe\denial notice for lack of job. I hope it was true that it does not matter if you are not working at all on EAD.
I read through your reply, however, I found it extremely hard for me to accept your points. You've been probably on EAD too long to remember what a dire condition you came from as an H1B worker. Let's look at it:
As an AOS, you can:
- Work for any employer
- Not work at all
- Travel out of the country without worrying visa delay
- When you got laid off, no need to worry about being out of status or restarting GC
As an H1B worker:
- If you are laid off, everything, years of wait, thousands of dollars, down the drain, and the whole family becomes out of status immediately. And in this dire economy, this is a sword hanging on the head of every H1B worker.
- Worry about re-entry visa each time you travel
With such a huge different, I can hardly convience myself that EAD is 'useless' or 'waste'. True, you'll need to work for same or similar job, but compared to the benefit, it is not nearly as big a problem faced by H1B workers day by day.
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chaanakya
04-10 02:01 PM
Those who do talk and blame in the anonymity of the web andnever do anything and keep hiding behind their closets expecting sky to fall are the one who "don't wear clothes"
Chandu, you made me laugh (in a fun way, not in the making fun of you way). Hiding is done inside the closet, not behind it. Maybe lack of clothes is explainable because one is "behind" the closet :)
On a serious note though, You provided so many ways that money is being raised by running marathons, funding drives etc etc...but come on, where on this website or anywhere else is it mentioned how this money is being spent??
I have absolutely no right to ask that question because i have never contributed money. But when i am told that I dont have access to this thread or that thread because I am not a donor...I do have the right to question if this organization actually represents all immigrants or just the donors?? If the motto of IV becomes "Change for fairness and justice (For Donors Only)" then it would make a lot more sense to me. But as long as IV keeps on harping that they represent the plight of legal immigrants (which I am) then I do have the right to ask the question ..."What exactly has IV done?"
Asking the question is never the problem, it may make people uncomfortable but I want people (like yourself) who are contributing to at least ask IV before ranting on people like me (who dont contribute) to support the cause...Supporting the cause is NOT equal to giving IV money. The republicans already tried something similar ..."If you are anti-war, you dont support the troops"..That was fallacious and so are all the personal attacks on the "freeloaders" (like myself ofcourse).
Chandu, you made me laugh (in a fun way, not in the making fun of you way). Hiding is done inside the closet, not behind it. Maybe lack of clothes is explainable because one is "behind" the closet :)
On a serious note though, You provided so many ways that money is being raised by running marathons, funding drives etc etc...but come on, where on this website or anywhere else is it mentioned how this money is being spent??
I have absolutely no right to ask that question because i have never contributed money. But when i am told that I dont have access to this thread or that thread because I am not a donor...I do have the right to question if this organization actually represents all immigrants or just the donors?? If the motto of IV becomes "Change for fairness and justice (For Donors Only)" then it would make a lot more sense to me. But as long as IV keeps on harping that they represent the plight of legal immigrants (which I am) then I do have the right to ask the question ..."What exactly has IV done?"
Asking the question is never the problem, it may make people uncomfortable but I want people (like yourself) who are contributing to at least ask IV before ranting on people like me (who dont contribute) to support the cause...Supporting the cause is NOT equal to giving IV money. The republicans already tried something similar ..."If you are anti-war, you dont support the troops"..That was fallacious and so are all the personal attacks on the "freeloaders" (like myself ofcourse).
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amitjoey
05-28 10:43 AM
Thank you VJP, Pandi, ramaonline, vineet for your contributions
Total $ 8,700
Total $ 8,700
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mmandal
06-08 03:24 PM
Did anyone research whether it is possible to get some relief through rulemaking, instead of legislation? For example, there is no 'explicit' prohibition against issuing employment authorization to spouses of H1bi employees. The rule-making agency (in this case the DHS or USCIS) can grant a benefit that spouses be provided with employment authorization. Recently, the USCIS actually did provide regulatory relief by de-coupling the H1bi period of stay from the period of stay in H4 status. An idea to consider...
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kicca
04-28 02:11 PM
$50 personal check from MISSOURI in the mail today.
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rayoflight
05-20 12:32 PM
Since you guys asked for the total - Here it is $1800.
We need another $1600 to end the day to bring it to $3400
I am just counting the pledges from the last 3 pages. Not the actual recieved.
GO IV.
Thanks to everyone that contributed today. we need to do better in the comming days.
Thank You Amit for gauging the progress we are making...
We need another $1600 to end the day to bring it to $3400
I am just counting the pledges from the last 3 pages. Not the actual recieved.
GO IV.
Thanks to everyone that contributed today. we need to do better in the comming days.
Thank You Amit for gauging the progress we are making...
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GCwaitforever
06-19 04:47 PM
Folks,
If this bill text passes, there will be a backlog center for all our I-140/I-485 petitons. We are limited by 90,000. Has anybody found any new relief for BEC candidates?
They are allocating supplemental greencard numbers for Z visa holders with a flexible limit and this supplemental allocation will go away once all Z visa holders adjust (end of page 287 and beginning of page 288).
If this bill text passes, there will be a backlog center for all our I-140/I-485 petitons. We are limited by 90,000. Has anybody found any new relief for BEC candidates?
They are allocating supplemental greencard numbers for Z visa holders with a flexible limit and this supplemental allocation will go away once all Z visa holders adjust (end of page 287 and beginning of page 288).
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GCard_Dream
03-21 11:16 AM
Great post. Couldn't agree with you more.
The more I read this form, the more I become disgruntled with this community! To say that someone from a lower class of visa and not from an "Oversubscribed country" (and I am assuming you mean India) is less skilled and less deserving than someone from a higher class and oversubscribed country is ludicrous to say the least. Each and everyone of us (and I mean "legal immigrants") have our own skill sets and contribute equally to the American society. As long as we are competent at what we do, then we are all SKILLED in our own way. The only real defining difference among the visa classes is the level of education not skill. To suggest one is better based on education alone is arrogance and nothing else!
The U.S. immigration system is not without its flaws and despite the delays and frustrations, it is FAIR! The per country limit is to ensure that citizens of ALL nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the U.S. and not just a select few. The only thing that I have found unfair as far as immigration in this country is concerned is the politicians focused efforts to do something for the "illegal" immigrants at the expense of the "legal" immigrants.
We are all in this together and the insults and innuendos that dominate this forum divide us so let's stop them and focus on the real issues!
The more I read this form, the more I become disgruntled with this community! To say that someone from a lower class of visa and not from an "Oversubscribed country" (and I am assuming you mean India) is less skilled and less deserving than someone from a higher class and oversubscribed country is ludicrous to say the least. Each and everyone of us (and I mean "legal immigrants") have our own skill sets and contribute equally to the American society. As long as we are competent at what we do, then we are all SKILLED in our own way. The only real defining difference among the visa classes is the level of education not skill. To suggest one is better based on education alone is arrogance and nothing else!
The U.S. immigration system is not without its flaws and despite the delays and frustrations, it is FAIR! The per country limit is to ensure that citizens of ALL nations have an equal opportunity to immigrate to the U.S. and not just a select few. The only thing that I have found unfair as far as immigration in this country is concerned is the politicians focused efforts to do something for the "illegal" immigrants at the expense of the "legal" immigrants.
We are all in this together and the insults and innuendos that dominate this forum divide us so let's stop them and focus on the real issues!
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indigo10
05-18 01:11 PM
Very easy way to convey our message, Thank you very much IV and Pappu.
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psaxena
06-01 04:52 PM
Seems to me , either you are paid by AF to defend them here or you are one of those who like pizza than roti. The moment these things happen to you , you will be shouting on top of your lungs but when it happens with your fellow countrymen you can't empathize.. are you so insensitive or just like to be French.
The 2 things I like about france is a french kiss and having a french kiss with a french chick
I find your quote to be insulting to a large group of persons, some of whom could be potential members of IV. If anyone had made such a comment about Telgu-speakers or Punjabi-speakers, there would be outrage.
Last I checked, this was not supposed to be desi-centric forum.
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I find your quote to be insulting to a large group of persons, some of whom could be potential members of IV. If anyone had made such a comment about Telgu-speakers or Punjabi-speakers, there would be outrage.
Last I checked, this was not supposed to be desi-centric forum.
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GCBy3000
05-31 02:25 PM
Still you are not inspired to contribute to IV even a dime.
I am a master's from US in STEM too with more than three years oof experience but I am not thinking like you.
We all should benefit.
" WILL NOT REDUCE BACKLOGS"
" MORE OVER WAIT AND WATCH SAYS IT JUST LIES ON THE TABLE"
I am a master's from US in STEM too with more than three years oof experience but I am not thinking like you.
We all should benefit.
" WILL NOT REDUCE BACKLOGS"
" MORE OVER WAIT AND WATCH SAYS IT JUST LIES ON THE TABLE"
cshen
06-10 09:00 AM
Senator Hilary Clinton introduced an amendment to not exempt apllicant's dependents from visa quotos, which will reduce the retrogression signifcantly, why Core choose the Coryn's not supporting Hilary Clinton's? She is very likly to be our future president.
felix31
07-24 11:45 AM
joining the club...
my I-485 was nicely pending @ TSC, and the company just sent H1 papers off to VSC for processing, so I can come back on H1. I am currently sitting in London (working for my GC employer from their UK office), when I got the Card Production E-mail. My previous H1 approval expired in March.
My EAD will expire next month, as well as AP. So, here is the rub, they will not let me come back to US on AP since system shows GC approved, H1 will be rejected since GC is approved.
needless to say PD is not current. I kind of remember having an approved RIR Labor with PD June 2004, but I dont remember having sent for I-140...No idea what to do and how to check that.
Dont trust company's lawyer, and I sent all I-485 papers by myself back in July 2007. I have an attorney that I bug from time to time but he is on vacation now...
So... am I completely screwed...?
My employer transfered me from US to UK couple of months ago, now they are transfering me back. I did go for H1 stamping in Dec here in London and IO said something like, my GC is taking too long, he will check why I dont already have it..
Just venting here, no clue whom to talk to next....
Any suggestions are welcome...
my I-485 was nicely pending @ TSC, and the company just sent H1 papers off to VSC for processing, so I can come back on H1. I am currently sitting in London (working for my GC employer from their UK office), when I got the Card Production E-mail. My previous H1 approval expired in March.
My EAD will expire next month, as well as AP. So, here is the rub, they will not let me come back to US on AP since system shows GC approved, H1 will be rejected since GC is approved.
needless to say PD is not current. I kind of remember having an approved RIR Labor with PD June 2004, but I dont remember having sent for I-140...No idea what to do and how to check that.
Dont trust company's lawyer, and I sent all I-485 papers by myself back in July 2007. I have an attorney that I bug from time to time but he is on vacation now...
So... am I completely screwed...?
My employer transfered me from US to UK couple of months ago, now they are transfering me back. I did go for H1 stamping in Dec here in London and IO said something like, my GC is taking too long, he will check why I dont already have it..
Just venting here, no clue whom to talk to next....
Any suggestions are welcome...
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