bfadlia
01-13 02:05 PM
my friend.. thanx for your kind words
u and ur non-retrogressed friend have my support for an expedited process since u got US advanced degree that make u better suited for this market.. u should be talking STEM.. i am talking about the disparity in available opportunities to come here back in our homelands. Individual examples aside, I trust statistics, you'll find that each year a handful of giant offshoring companies grab more than half the H1 quota.. is it my streotyping imagination that infosys, wipro and satyam don't hold job fairs in Romania and they only make these opportunities available in retrogressed countries? and don't give me the condescending excuse that if these companies only hire in retrogressed companies then talented, educated people must only exist in the retrogressed countries.
Anyway, i had this discussion many times here .. radical issue where people hardly change their minds..
peace..
Thank you. You seem like a rational person who is balanced in arguments. I can give you real life examples too. Let me start with that. In 2005 I and my friend from a non-retrogressed country graduated with a masters, same degree same specialization.
Now THAT is over-generalization. You think all of us Indians and Chinese get jobs as soon as we graduate in giant offshoring cos? My friend you're stereotyping. It is wrong to assume that we get our jobs because of our nationality and not our skills.
Anyway, continuing with my example. My friend and I both found jobs after a few months of struggle in small boutique consulting companies (run by Americans), mind you no offshoring. In fact my friend's sponsor is Indian, my sponsor is American!
Very subjective. My own example, none of my fellow-graduates were in the plight.
Yup. Standing your turn in line is fair. And that's what needs to change. EB visas are about skills and not nationality.
You need to quit stereotyping and being unfair to us by saying we get jobs because of our nationalities. Brother, you don't get degrees or jobs because you're Indian or Chinese, but because you add value.
u and ur non-retrogressed friend have my support for an expedited process since u got US advanced degree that make u better suited for this market.. u should be talking STEM.. i am talking about the disparity in available opportunities to come here back in our homelands. Individual examples aside, I trust statistics, you'll find that each year a handful of giant offshoring companies grab more than half the H1 quota.. is it my streotyping imagination that infosys, wipro and satyam don't hold job fairs in Romania and they only make these opportunities available in retrogressed countries? and don't give me the condescending excuse that if these companies only hire in retrogressed companies then talented, educated people must only exist in the retrogressed countries.
Anyway, i had this discussion many times here .. radical issue where people hardly change their minds..
peace..
Thank you. You seem like a rational person who is balanced in arguments. I can give you real life examples too. Let me start with that. In 2005 I and my friend from a non-retrogressed country graduated with a masters, same degree same specialization.
Now THAT is over-generalization. You think all of us Indians and Chinese get jobs as soon as we graduate in giant offshoring cos? My friend you're stereotyping. It is wrong to assume that we get our jobs because of our nationality and not our skills.
Anyway, continuing with my example. My friend and I both found jobs after a few months of struggle in small boutique consulting companies (run by Americans), mind you no offshoring. In fact my friend's sponsor is Indian, my sponsor is American!
Very subjective. My own example, none of my fellow-graduates were in the plight.
Yup. Standing your turn in line is fair. And that's what needs to change. EB visas are about skills and not nationality.
You need to quit stereotyping and being unfair to us by saying we get jobs because of our nationalities. Brother, you don't get degrees or jobs because you're Indian or Chinese, but because you add value.
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nonimmi
03-14 11:31 AM
Sure there may still be 2002 files waiting but it is definately not a GREAT number. Here are three logical bullets to conslude that.
- Many people with 2000/1/2 dates have already left USA - Tired: Could not
take the delay:Found good oppertunity back home or elsewhere
- Black labor market played a part to shift a considerable load either to EB2 or
PD date from 1999/2000 and thus many people preferred that path either
stuck in EB2 or have already got their GC
The only thing we can be unsure about stuck in NC with those early PDs.
Having said this, it is ofcourse impossible to predict perfect chain of future flow, I see hope for EB3-I in this year, particularly last quarter at least for the people having 2004-Mid and before PDs.
I very much appreciate your analysis. But I dont understand why EB3 does not even move to 2002 and stuck in 2001 for so long!!
I know many people swiched to EB2 during 2003-2004. But then someone pointed out indian companies bring people here - L1 also filed under EB3. What about those cases?
- Many people with 2000/1/2 dates have already left USA - Tired: Could not
take the delay:Found good oppertunity back home or elsewhere
- Black labor market played a part to shift a considerable load either to EB2 or
PD date from 1999/2000 and thus many people preferred that path either
stuck in EB2 or have already got their GC
The only thing we can be unsure about stuck in NC with those early PDs.
Having said this, it is ofcourse impossible to predict perfect chain of future flow, I see hope for EB3-I in this year, particularly last quarter at least for the people having 2004-Mid and before PDs.
I very much appreciate your analysis. But I dont understand why EB3 does not even move to 2002 and stuck in 2001 for so long!!
I know many people swiched to EB2 during 2003-2004. But then someone pointed out indian companies bring people here - L1 also filed under EB3. What about those cases?
vishal
06-10 02:48 PM
Congratulations for all those who became current.
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apnair2002
07-05 12:50 PM
To core IV team members,
Do we are sending any "thank you faxes "to the congress man who orginates the skill bill?
Do we are sending any "thank you faxes "to the congress man who orginates the skill bill?
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kate123
02-14 11:44 AM
Nice... welcome aboard.
I will prepare a draft letter addressing to DHS secretary shortly.
Thanks a lot for all your support,
Kiran :)
I have six other guys who are in US for over 7 years who are also intrested in this admin(hopefully) fix . Please let us know what we can do? They just signed up@ immigrationvoice.org.
I will prepare a draft letter addressing to DHS secretary shortly.
Thanks a lot for all your support,
Kiran :)
I have six other guys who are in US for over 7 years who are also intrested in this admin(hopefully) fix . Please let us know what we can do? They just signed up@ immigrationvoice.org.
paskal
07-18 10:43 PM
even though I am in EB2..from my personal experience, the kind of IT contracts/jobs/assignments we (most of us) do, I dont think there is anything that an EB2 qualified can do which EB3 cannot do.
i would be very careful about making such an argument.
if this is true in IT then the opposite argument is perfectly valid (and that is the one USCIS/DOL will accept) - that the folks in EB2 are not doing a job that needs an advanced degree and they should be in EB3.
and if this is true:
"If the requirement is genuine then it is ok to give priority to EB2. But in reality(mainly consulting companies) the job requirement is decided mostly in Lawyers office or by candidate just because candidate has
master degree or 5 years experience."
then maybe applicants and their employers should start shouldering some of the blame for the current backlog instead of blaming everyone else.
i have no personal knowledge of this. in my field, there is no question that an advanced degree in needed. in fact, something well beyond it is the standard qualification.
i would be very careful about making such an argument.
if this is true in IT then the opposite argument is perfectly valid (and that is the one USCIS/DOL will accept) - that the folks in EB2 are not doing a job that needs an advanced degree and they should be in EB3.
and if this is true:
"If the requirement is genuine then it is ok to give priority to EB2. But in reality(mainly consulting companies) the job requirement is decided mostly in Lawyers office or by candidate just because candidate has
master degree or 5 years experience."
then maybe applicants and their employers should start shouldering some of the blame for the current backlog instead of blaming everyone else.
i have no personal knowledge of this. in my field, there is no question that an advanced degree in needed. in fact, something well beyond it is the standard qualification.
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RaviG
05-30 06:33 PM
would create a quota exemption for certain highly skilled immigrants who have at least three years of U.S. work experience
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TheOmbudsman
11-08 10:58 AM
GCBY3000, I think you are right. It is not all that simple. There are many in the House who can still vote against amnesties. We shall watch and see. I suggest that no one gets too excited about this.
SInce democrats gained the contorl on house, they will wait till the next congress starts to pass releif to immigration issue. THis way, they can take the credit for it and campaign it for their next election. Republicans are stuck now. They neither want to pass it nor want it to supress. They dont want the democrats to gain the credit whatsoever. If republicans cannot pass it this year they will do everything to stop it in next congress session if they have majority in senate. It is vey comlicated and sensitive issue and we have to wait to see how the business people push the lawmakers. None other then business tycoons can make some impact with this kind of power split in senate / congress with a lame duck president for next two years.
SInce democrats gained the contorl on house, they will wait till the next congress starts to pass releif to immigration issue. THis way, they can take the credit for it and campaign it for their next election. Republicans are stuck now. They neither want to pass it nor want it to supress. They dont want the democrats to gain the credit whatsoever. If republicans cannot pass it this year they will do everything to stop it in next congress session if they have majority in senate. It is vey comlicated and sensitive issue and we have to wait to see how the business people push the lawmakers. None other then business tycoons can make some impact with this kind of power split in senate / congress with a lame duck president for next two years.
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grupak
06-25 10:38 AM
Please continue to call.
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senglory
02-14 08:19 PM
I arrived in the USA on 02/04. By current time I haven't been assigned to to any client's project which my bodyshop promised me. Also he have'n paid me yet even a single paycheck. I started to find another company which could do transfer my h1b. Is it real without any paycheck at all?
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jayram123
09-20 12:52 PM
While we are at discussing participation, a question I heard at DC comes to my mind. A member ( anil_sap?) asked another Texan member ( forgot name) - 'What takes you to become an Active member?'. To which my friend answered - 'Isn't he active alredy. He is here'.
That made me think - is being active a nebulous concept. Who's is the real active member of IV? The Core and near-core that strategize, plan , co-ordinate and conduct the business? The guys subscribed to monthly payment but missed DC? Guys who were at DC but not monthly contributors? Guys who were there all 4 days? Guys who visited for a day? "Lunch-Break" agitators? Who is 'active' among these will depend on whom you ask!
The following portion is in humor. Don't take it in bad spirit.
I did a self-evaluation, and guess-what, I realized I was a different breed. A 'Know-Nothing' IV member!
Being a IV member
1) Do I know why was such a mass mobilization done on that particular day? Is it because there was a push for STRIVE act as speculated in the forums here? Or is it SKIL we are pushing?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
2) What is the criteria for getting selected for Lawmaker meetings? Why weren't some selected after following the USCIS-inspired process? ( inspired by Marks skit)
Step 1 : Submit Labor petition E-IV-LOBBYDAY ( twice)
Step 2 : Verification by Labor department (or is it Name check)
Step 3 : Receipt Notice ( Talking Points)
Step 4 : Waiting...
Step 5 : Followup with RO (Rally Officer). You are still under Processing Time
Step 6 : Waiting...
Step 7 : More followup..
Step 8 : Retrogression due to insufficient (visa) numbers
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
3) Didn't some members from my state attend Lawmakers meetings? What was the result? Where they positive or negative about our cause? What should we do to followup with them?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
4) What does it takes to become an 'Active' member as defined by Anil? What will take for IV to trust a member enough to let him know of the purported plan for World-Domination? Or should we just remain content gossiping (with near-core members) and making our own guesses?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
5) Does my State chapter even exist as of today? Or is it an IV version of Flying Sphaggeti Monster, that we should worship without questioning?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
With so many 'KNOW NOTHINGS' to my credit, I feel like the member of a secret American political party in the time of the Whigs.
Hey, You are one of the most sensible forum members I have come across. Keep up the good work and keep the posts coming. I was there at the rally and I agree 110% with you on everything you said above.
That made me think - is being active a nebulous concept. Who's is the real active member of IV? The Core and near-core that strategize, plan , co-ordinate and conduct the business? The guys subscribed to monthly payment but missed DC? Guys who were at DC but not monthly contributors? Guys who were there all 4 days? Guys who visited for a day? "Lunch-Break" agitators? Who is 'active' among these will depend on whom you ask!
The following portion is in humor. Don't take it in bad spirit.
I did a self-evaluation, and guess-what, I realized I was a different breed. A 'Know-Nothing' IV member!
Being a IV member
1) Do I know why was such a mass mobilization done on that particular day? Is it because there was a push for STRIVE act as speculated in the forums here? Or is it SKIL we are pushing?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
2) What is the criteria for getting selected for Lawmaker meetings? Why weren't some selected after following the USCIS-inspired process? ( inspired by Marks skit)
Step 1 : Submit Labor petition E-IV-LOBBYDAY ( twice)
Step 2 : Verification by Labor department (or is it Name check)
Step 3 : Receipt Notice ( Talking Points)
Step 4 : Waiting...
Step 5 : Followup with RO (Rally Officer). You are still under Processing Time
Step 6 : Waiting...
Step 7 : More followup..
Step 8 : Retrogression due to insufficient (visa) numbers
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
3) Didn't some members from my state attend Lawmakers meetings? What was the result? Where they positive or negative about our cause? What should we do to followup with them?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
4) What does it takes to become an 'Active' member as defined by Anil? What will take for IV to trust a member enough to let him know of the purported plan for World-Domination? Or should we just remain content gossiping (with near-core members) and making our own guesses?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
5) Does my State chapter even exist as of today? Or is it an IV version of Flying Sphaggeti Monster, that we should worship without questioning?
Ans - I KNOW NOTHING
With so many 'KNOW NOTHINGS' to my credit, I feel like the member of a secret American political party in the time of the Whigs.
Hey, You are one of the most sensible forum members I have come across. Keep up the good work and keep the posts coming. I was there at the rally and I agree 110% with you on everything you said above.
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micofrost
07-23 09:35 PM
We have seen in the past years EB3 ROW got huge visa bonanza at the cost of EB2 I & C. And now apparently EB2 I & C is getting rightly deserved visa bonanza.
How about asking DOS to give similar visa numbers to EB3 I & C as a one time exception. I know people will say it is against law, but in my opinion law is fuzzy enough for this to happen.
DOS can give explanations like "Visa numbers will be given to oldest PDs or some thing". Per my calculation EB3 I needs 68K visas to move past 2003.
We (IV) may have to make representation to Secretary of State and try and convince her.
DISCLAIMER:- I am Eb2 and current in Aug.
DISCLAIMER:- I am Eb2 and current in Aug
While giving a response like this, you put your discalimer first and then your response. :)
How about asking DOS to give similar visa numbers to EB3 I & C as a one time exception. I know people will say it is against law, but in my opinion law is fuzzy enough for this to happen.
DOS can give explanations like "Visa numbers will be given to oldest PDs or some thing". Per my calculation EB3 I needs 68K visas to move past 2003.
We (IV) may have to make representation to Secretary of State and try and convince her.
DISCLAIMER:- I am Eb2 and current in Aug.
DISCLAIMER:- I am Eb2 and current in Aug
While giving a response like this, you put your discalimer first and then your response. :)
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ca_immigrant
08-24 07:18 PM
mommy told me not to talk to strangers :p
that is a nice one...lol
that is a nice one...lol
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Totoro
05-15 06:22 PM
I also missed out the stimulus payment due to my wife's ITIN. Bollocks to FAIR...
Hopefully we can make it backfire on them.
Hopefully we can make it backfire on them.
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anilsal
02-12 02:59 AM
Based on last week's BusinessWeek article, I have a feeling that we will see an effort to restrict initial H1B applications in some way. That would be a good opportunity to push for allowing naturalization applications for people who have been on work visas for a long time (say 8-10 yrs?). Fighting for citizenship would have a stronger emotional dimension and may connect better with the American public. A direct filing for citizenship will work around retrogression by providing an avenue for people to move out of the GC queue.
That would be nice. Citizenship for people who have been on visa and been in the country legally for a number of years. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
That would be nice. Citizenship for people who have been on visa and been in the country legally for a number of years. But I doubt it will happen anytime soon.
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factoryman
02-09 05:57 PM
This is THE time. We must sign on to this pony express and push our relief.
1. Fax to the same people listed here in the quote.
2. Fax to your HR/Attorney demanding a relief on the levels of Sch A be given to us.
3. Write letters to editors.
4. Maintain a table on the top of the thread and update the above action #s.
Please send emails and PMs to your friends, fellow IV members etc, etc.
No other threads please, till we get concrete action on this. And don't wait for direction from core IV. We can act independently.
ADVOCACY ALERT: RETROGRESSION: WE'RE GETTING CLOSE
HLG has confirmed that the Senate leadership is comfortable with a proposal to solve retrogression for Schedule A occupation -- registered nurses and physical therapists. It was through grassroots advocacy that we were able to explain to the Senate leadership just how important this issue is. Thank you to everyone who made an effort.
We now must turn our efforts toward the House.
If anyone works with or at any hospitals in the following Representatives' districts, please contact Chris Musillo (cmusillo@hammondlawfirm.com; 513-381-2011 x223) ASAP.
Rep. Lofgren (D - CA) : 16th District - San Jose
Rep. Eshoo (D- CA) : 14th District - San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Cruz
Rep. Pelosi (D - CA) : 8th District - San Francisco and north
Essentially anyone who is located in the Bay Area and wants to see retrogression solved should contact their hospital leadership and see if they are willing to make a few phone calls and sign onto a letter. If they are willing to do that, please let Chris know ASAP. Chris can then explain exactly what needs to be done.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
We're getting close.
LINK (ADVOCACY ALERT: RETROGRESSION: WE'RE GETTING CLOSE)
1. Fax to the same people listed here in the quote.
2. Fax to your HR/Attorney demanding a relief on the levels of Sch A be given to us.
3. Write letters to editors.
4. Maintain a table on the top of the thread and update the above action #s.
Please send emails and PMs to your friends, fellow IV members etc, etc.
No other threads please, till we get concrete action on this. And don't wait for direction from core IV. We can act independently.
ADVOCACY ALERT: RETROGRESSION: WE'RE GETTING CLOSE
HLG has confirmed that the Senate leadership is comfortable with a proposal to solve retrogression for Schedule A occupation -- registered nurses and physical therapists. It was through grassroots advocacy that we were able to explain to the Senate leadership just how important this issue is. Thank you to everyone who made an effort.
We now must turn our efforts toward the House.
If anyone works with or at any hospitals in the following Representatives' districts, please contact Chris Musillo (cmusillo@hammondlawfirm.com; 513-381-2011 x223) ASAP.
Rep. Lofgren (D - CA) : 16th District - San Jose
Rep. Eshoo (D- CA) : 14th District - San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Cruz
Rep. Pelosi (D - CA) : 8th District - San Francisco and north
Essentially anyone who is located in the Bay Area and wants to see retrogression solved should contact their hospital leadership and see if they are willing to make a few phone calls and sign onto a letter. If they are willing to do that, please let Chris know ASAP. Chris can then explain exactly what needs to be done.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
We're getting close.
LINK (ADVOCACY ALERT: RETROGRESSION: WE'RE GETTING CLOSE)
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BornConfused
07-03 04:13 PM
Never mind.. your name suits you...
I am stressing on July 2 as the date due to the new bulletin... Anyway, dont bother replying..
Pay attention more to something when you read and ask your questions better (or at least elaborate before you reply with something like the above gem). And, since I suspect this is part of the problem look up "hypothetical". The correct term should have been "on or after July 2" not "after July 2". I didn't bother to sit there and make sure it was perfectly clear since I assumed readers would get it. Obviously, some are slow:D Peace
I am stressing on July 2 as the date due to the new bulletin... Anyway, dont bother replying..
Pay attention more to something when you read and ask your questions better (or at least elaborate before you reply with something like the above gem). And, since I suspect this is part of the problem look up "hypothetical". The correct term should have been "on or after July 2" not "after July 2". I didn't bother to sit there and make sure it was perfectly clear since I assumed readers would get it. Obviously, some are slow:D Peace
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qasleuth
04-10 03:56 PM
green.tech on the same page, few posts above:
"How is he in the same boat as me? I am on a boat called IV and I don't see him on that boat. "
This was his reponse to someone who is not a donor.
Another response of his was: "If you dont like our way, take your business elsewhere. "
Why should green.tech be not banned?
and then theres sanju, whenever a talk on why people should pay, comes up, he has only one compaison to make:
"Dont you pay to your Cable company to watch Television?"
reddog, are you serious ? go back and re-read your quotes in the context of those threads. Green-tech was talking in terms of being with IV, do not extrapolate to make it donors Vs non-donors to suit your arguments.
and how is Sanju's comment make it you are with us or against ?
"How is he in the same boat as me? I am on a boat called IV and I don't see him on that boat. "
This was his reponse to someone who is not a donor.
Another response of his was: "If you dont like our way, take your business elsewhere. "
Why should green.tech be not banned?
and then theres sanju, whenever a talk on why people should pay, comes up, he has only one compaison to make:
"Dont you pay to your Cable company to watch Television?"
reddog, are you serious ? go back and re-read your quotes in the context of those threads. Green-tech was talking in terms of being with IV, do not extrapolate to make it donors Vs non-donors to suit your arguments.
and how is Sanju's comment make it you are with us or against ?
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pappu
07-18 02:17 PM
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Message from IV for BEC victims
We are aware of the issue and if there is any acion item, we will post it.
also be aware of what we posted earlier on this issue:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6084
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=100024#post100024
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Message from IV for BEC victims
We are aware of the issue and if there is any acion item, we will post it.
also be aware of what we posted earlier on this issue:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=6084
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=100024#post100024
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srkamath
07-15 09:28 PM
It is very simple.
Old Vertical spillover system
EB2 ~ 44 k
EB3 ~ 89 k
NEW, Horizontal spillover system
EB2 ~ 89 k
EB3 ~ 44 k
The above will be definitely true for FY2009. It might be a little less for FY2008 as they changed the system mid-year. EB2 will become current by end of FY2009 to 2010. Without legislative action, EB3 will get max relief then - vdlrao is correct.
Old Vertical spillover system
EB2 ~ 44 k
EB3 ~ 89 k
NEW, Horizontal spillover system
EB2 ~ 89 k
EB3 ~ 44 k
The above will be definitely true for FY2009. It might be a little less for FY2008 as they changed the system mid-year. EB2 will become current by end of FY2009 to 2010. Without legislative action, EB3 will get max relief then - vdlrao is correct.
girish.sh
06-14 09:11 PM
Hi Company A has file for H1B and it got stamped. I came to USA last week and did not join them as they were not able to provide me job and were asking me to delay my trip to USA. Now last week monday they said they will terminate my visa and report to USCIS. My new employer has yet not applied for H1B transfer. So i wanted to know how much time do i have left to do it. Suppose Company A filed for visa cancellation on 11th June, Monday. Please let me know if there would be any problem in filing for H1B transfer now as Company A has filed for cancellation before i file for H1B Transfer.
I would appreciate a detiled reply.
Thanks,
Girish
I would appreciate a detiled reply.
Thanks,
Girish
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