JazzByTheBay
05-30 06:32 PM
Any bill that passes without an amendment to restore the 3-year extensions for H1B visas if a labor certification or immigrant worker petition is pending for more than 365 days will make it REALLY hard for most of us to get any kind of mobility, and make us totally dependent on existing employers, imo.
Nevertheless, thanks for posting - any positive development should be greeted with a happy cheer - at least there's cause for some hope.
jazz
Fragomen Website talks about the bill and the amendment to the bill to reinstate most of the SKIL bill provisions. Perhaps, this amendment will be considered in the senate.
http://pubweb.fdbl.com/news1.nsf/9abe5d703b986cff86256e310080943a/9c1274840ebee3c3852572eb006fde98?OpenDocument
Nevertheless, thanks for posting - any positive development should be greeted with a happy cheer - at least there's cause for some hope.
jazz
Fragomen Website talks about the bill and the amendment to the bill to reinstate most of the SKIL bill provisions. Perhaps, this amendment will be considered in the senate.
http://pubweb.fdbl.com/news1.nsf/9abe5d703b986cff86256e310080943a/9c1274840ebee3c3852572eb006fde98?OpenDocument
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hebron
06-15 07:05 AM
I hate to say this and I hope I am wrong. All of us EB3 folks need to start speaking up or else our fate is sealed. I do not see any hopes of CIR passing. There is always going to be some political backlash due to the AMNESTY factor.
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
From what I have seen, most employers are now filing only in EB2 category. They know that filing in EB3 will see their applicants backlogged so severly that there is no hope in seeing their applications approved. So, even those with less than 5 years of experience create resumes that show 5 years to qualify for EB2. Imagine the flood of applicants in EB2 that will pour in when the dates move forward beyond July 2007. There will be a new backlog of EB2 numbers that we have to wait behind. When are we going to get our turn?
With nearly 10 years of experience and a master's degree, I am still languishing behind all these new comers who come here with fake experiences to qualify for EB2.
We EB3 folks need to speak up, and have the spill over given to the oldest filed applications IRRESPECTIVE of category. The spillover rules from what I know were defined at a later stage and not as per the original law. If we cannot get CIR passed nor a piecemeal regulation, at least let us get the spillover changed.
Or, let us en masse transfer to EB2 by porting, thereby making us all eligible for GC ahead of those that are coming in through the back door. I see them as no different from the undocumented immigrants. Breaking the ethical law at the expense of those of us who followed the law. Our positions did not require a Master's degree and I dont see why a programming position today still requires such. I also dont see why our experience today should not count towards qualifying for EB2.
I dont care what or how many reds the EB2 folks give, but the fact of the matter is that we EB3 must join hands.
Agree with you 100%. I have been waiting patiently all along hoping something good would happen for EB3. I am talking to my employer if they can port my case to EB2. I have a master's degree and about 13 years of experience (8 years in the current job). My only concern is if the new EB2 labor or I140 doesn't get approved for some reason, can I fall back to my current EB3 application. I don't want to jeopardize my current application just by deciding to port to EB2. Any suggestions?
zico123
06-22 06:30 PM
However, she never got the aprroval notice for the second H1B application. Actually this case is currently still pending.
There is a possibility that
- approval notice might be lost in mail
- uscis misplaced her file
Check with uscis what happened to her application for transfer and you might have to contact attorney depending on uscis' answer.
There is a possibility that
- approval notice might be lost in mail
- uscis misplaced her file
Check with uscis what happened to her application for transfer and you might have to contact attorney depending on uscis' answer.
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Aah_GC
09-12 07:47 PM
I am very sorry to hear about your case. As others are pointing out - it is not all over yet. Make sure you get in touch with a good lawyer and take a good route to fight USCIS.
Also, could you please let us know of your PD? Doesn't look like you are current right?
Also, could you please let us know of your PD? Doesn't look like you are current right?
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txh1b
08-21 06:00 PM
but Indians (I am also an Indian -:) are a little reserved....I do not see a greeting from fellow Indians that easily.....again I am not saying Indians are bad (cause I too am one -;)
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No, it isn't the culture thing but it is the Amway/Quixtar thing. If one says hello or hi and has a smile on their face, 9 out of 10 times it isn't the person trying to be friendly but for a reason...The great pyramid scheme!
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No, it isn't the culture thing but it is the Amway/Quixtar thing. If one says hello or hi and has a smile on their face, 9 out of 10 times it isn't the person trying to be friendly but for a reason...The great pyramid scheme!
Hope_GC
06-13 08:18 PM
Guys and IV GURUS..
With the I-140 Pending can i file for my I-485 Concurrently..
With the I-140 Pending can i file for my I-485 Concurrently..
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santb1975
04-27 11:33 PM
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amitjoey
05-31 04:38 PM
http://www.parlipro.org/table.htm
Purpose:
The Object of this motion is to enable the assembly, in order to attend to more urgent business, to lay aside the pending question in such a way that its consideration may be resumed at the will of the assembly as easily as if it were a new question, and in preference to new questions competing with it for consideration. It is to the interest of the assembly that this object should be attained instantly by a majority vote, and therefore this motion must either apply to, or take precedence of, every debatable motion whatever its rank.
The motion to Lay on the Table is undebatable, and requires only a majority vote, notwithstanding the fact that if not taken from the table the question is suppressed.
These are dangerous privileges which are given to no other motion whose adoption would result in final action on a main motion. There is a great temptation to make an improper use of them, and lay questions on the table for the purpose of instantly suppressing them by a majority vote, instead of using the previous question, the legitimate motion to bring the assembly to an immediate vote.
The fundamental principles of parliamentary law require a two-thirds vote for every motion that suppresses a main question for the session without free debate. The motion to lay on the table being undebatable, and requiring only a majority vote, and having the highest rank of all subsidiary motions, is in direct conflict with these principles, if used to suppress a question. If habitually used in this way, it should, like the other motions to suppress without debate, require a two-thirds vote. [Note: The current (Tenth) edition of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, does not permit this usage of Lay on the Table to suppress a question.]
As motions laid on the table are merely temporarily laid aside, the majority should remember that the minority may all stay to the moment of final adjournment and then be in the majority, and take up and pass the resolutions laid on the table. They may also take the question from the table at the next meeting in societies having regular meetings as frequently as quarterly. If not taken from the table at the next meeting, however, the motion dies.
Purpose:
The Object of this motion is to enable the assembly, in order to attend to more urgent business, to lay aside the pending question in such a way that its consideration may be resumed at the will of the assembly as easily as if it were a new question, and in preference to new questions competing with it for consideration. It is to the interest of the assembly that this object should be attained instantly by a majority vote, and therefore this motion must either apply to, or take precedence of, every debatable motion whatever its rank.
The motion to Lay on the Table is undebatable, and requires only a majority vote, notwithstanding the fact that if not taken from the table the question is suppressed.
These are dangerous privileges which are given to no other motion whose adoption would result in final action on a main motion. There is a great temptation to make an improper use of them, and lay questions on the table for the purpose of instantly suppressing them by a majority vote, instead of using the previous question, the legitimate motion to bring the assembly to an immediate vote.
The fundamental principles of parliamentary law require a two-thirds vote for every motion that suppresses a main question for the session without free debate. The motion to lay on the table being undebatable, and requiring only a majority vote, and having the highest rank of all subsidiary motions, is in direct conflict with these principles, if used to suppress a question. If habitually used in this way, it should, like the other motions to suppress without debate, require a two-thirds vote. [Note: The current (Tenth) edition of Robert's Rules of Order Newly Revised, does not permit this usage of Lay on the Table to suppress a question.]
As motions laid on the table are merely temporarily laid aside, the majority should remember that the minority may all stay to the moment of final adjournment and then be in the majority, and take up and pass the resolutions laid on the table. They may also take the question from the table at the next meeting in societies having regular meetings as frequently as quarterly. If not taken from the table at the next meeting, however, the motion dies.
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01-13 01:21 PM
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coopheal
05-21 09:10 AM
Please contribute.
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laststraw
09-25 02:28 PM
I have many positive experiences with Fragomen.
My RIR case was first filed in 2001 by a different lawyer and he screwed it up. It got rejected by DOL and bumped back to non-RIR. When the BEC was about to take the case for processing, my company hired Fragomen for the processing. Fragomen reviewed my case, worked with me, prepared and filed a new Labor petition in 24 hours as I was reaching my 6th year limit.
When PERM was introduced, they worked with me to convert my traditional labor filing to PERM.
During the July VISA bulletin fiasco, they kept communicating well and worked overtime (I used to get emails around midnight sometimes) and filed my case. They even followed up and made sure that I was going to attend my finger printing appt when they got the courtesy copy.
They do well with email replies. I have never called them and hence, not sure about responding to calls. But I never had a requirement to call them as they normally reply to emails within 1 working day.
Since Fragomen is so big, they might have a small percentage of attorneys / para legals who are not customer focussed. I have dealt with 3 different attorneys / para legals withing Fragomen, and I have high regards for them.
My RIR case was first filed in 2001 by a different lawyer and he screwed it up. It got rejected by DOL and bumped back to non-RIR. When the BEC was about to take the case for processing, my company hired Fragomen for the processing. Fragomen reviewed my case, worked with me, prepared and filed a new Labor petition in 24 hours as I was reaching my 6th year limit.
When PERM was introduced, they worked with me to convert my traditional labor filing to PERM.
During the July VISA bulletin fiasco, they kept communicating well and worked overtime (I used to get emails around midnight sometimes) and filed my case. They even followed up and made sure that I was going to attend my finger printing appt when they got the courtesy copy.
They do well with email replies. I have never called them and hence, not sure about responding to calls. But I never had a requirement to call them as they normally reply to emails within 1 working day.
Since Fragomen is so big, they might have a small percentage of attorneys / para legals who are not customer focussed. I have dealt with 3 different attorneys / para legals withing Fragomen, and I have high regards for them.
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cableching
06-30 04:57 PM
Even if they approve the GC, they can always revoke and ask you to return the card. This has happened somebody, I don't remmeber which forun I read about it. Call them up and inform them that your PD is not current. You can even go to local ASC and talk to an IO. If you have an attorney, inform him/her.
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svn
04-10 05:12 PM
While I clearly do NOT agree with the original basis of this thread, here are the facts as I see it:
- We have an immigration backlog that affects a huge community and several people are only waking up to how serious this issue is (I will count myself in this category)
- IV has made significant contributions towards espousing our cause through the proper channels (via the press and lobbying)
- There is therefore greater interest today in an organization like IV and a desire to be part of the process including potentially financial contributions
- Hoewever, a lot of the new folks are looking for direction and a sense of belonging and action
- IV's policy of limited information dissemination (due to arguably valid reasons including the desire not to reveal any strategies to opponents of immigration) is not engendering the confidence required to welcome new members.
- An appeal for blind faith instead is just off-putting to most logical and thinking members and threads like these are nothing but an appeal for more information (stated rather poorly, I am afraid).
- In order to succeed, we clearly need to get everyone united
The reality is - IV needs a lot lot lot funds,IV needs manpower, IV needs your skills, IV needs your unity, IV does not need your criticism because if you criticize IV it won't help you.
So you and I together - united we stand - we build IV - if we do not want to take that extra step - we all suffer...............
Chandu, I chose to quote you since everything you are saying makes a lot of sense ( I also appreciate all of your posts and all the work you have done for so many years). In fact, with Obama's administration at least ready to talk about immigration, I think we have the perfect opportunity to get our point of view across through lobbying, which as you have said, will take a lot of funds. However, that said, is it really hard for the current team to undertstand that there are a lot of folks out there who want to contribute but would at least like to be informed on what is going on? (see poll thread I started: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24858)
I completely understand that those who are working hard on our cause don't really have the time to update others, especially given everything else in life they have to deal with. However, when there are people ready to take on this task, why the hesitation and the defensiveness in sharing information? We really need to move involve more people in this effort to have any chance of succeeding. I know a lot of folks have said something to the effect "it's not our job to inspire people - if they cannot be inspired to contribute, let them go to hell". However, I do think it's the job of leadership to inspire and get more people behind them or else no one will succeed - I really wish the Core team moves in this direction.
Disclaimer: I am a recent "Donor" and have certainly not put in anywhere near the amount of effort or money that several of the committed members like you have
- We have an immigration backlog that affects a huge community and several people are only waking up to how serious this issue is (I will count myself in this category)
- IV has made significant contributions towards espousing our cause through the proper channels (via the press and lobbying)
- There is therefore greater interest today in an organization like IV and a desire to be part of the process including potentially financial contributions
- Hoewever, a lot of the new folks are looking for direction and a sense of belonging and action
- IV's policy of limited information dissemination (due to arguably valid reasons including the desire not to reveal any strategies to opponents of immigration) is not engendering the confidence required to welcome new members.
- An appeal for blind faith instead is just off-putting to most logical and thinking members and threads like these are nothing but an appeal for more information (stated rather poorly, I am afraid).
- In order to succeed, we clearly need to get everyone united
The reality is - IV needs a lot lot lot funds,IV needs manpower, IV needs your skills, IV needs your unity, IV does not need your criticism because if you criticize IV it won't help you.
So you and I together - united we stand - we build IV - if we do not want to take that extra step - we all suffer...............
Chandu, I chose to quote you since everything you are saying makes a lot of sense ( I also appreciate all of your posts and all the work you have done for so many years). In fact, with Obama's administration at least ready to talk about immigration, I think we have the perfect opportunity to get our point of view across through lobbying, which as you have said, will take a lot of funds. However, that said, is it really hard for the current team to undertstand that there are a lot of folks out there who want to contribute but would at least like to be informed on what is going on? (see poll thread I started: http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24858)
I completely understand that those who are working hard on our cause don't really have the time to update others, especially given everything else in life they have to deal with. However, when there are people ready to take on this task, why the hesitation and the defensiveness in sharing information? We really need to move involve more people in this effort to have any chance of succeeding. I know a lot of folks have said something to the effect "it's not our job to inspire people - if they cannot be inspired to contribute, let them go to hell". However, I do think it's the job of leadership to inspire and get more people behind them or else no one will succeed - I really wish the Core team moves in this direction.
Disclaimer: I am a recent "Donor" and have certainly not put in anywhere near the amount of effort or money that several of the committed members like you have
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Hinglish
03-21 05:49 PM
Your arugment would hold if there were no country limits.
Thats whats amazing ... for the redistribution there is NO country limit !!!!
Thats whats amazing ... for the redistribution there is NO country limit !!!!
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ilikekilo
05-30 12:26 PM
Lets not get into Apples Vs Oranges debates here. Its ridiculous to stereotype the whole race just coz......bottomline, no one is superior to anyone else, regardless.
If the claim that AF did accomodate 'other' passengers with T visas and not for Indians, that is really so wrong. That we definitely should condemn.
Peace........
If the claim that AF did accomodate 'other' passengers with T visas and not for Indians, that is really so wrong. That we definitely should condemn.
Peace........
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H4_losing_hope
02-26 10:55 PM
Sent 2 letters for self and wife..have asked a couple more friends...sent email to local senator , will follow up with a letter also..
Will send IV copy asap..
Thank you for your extra efforts.
Will send IV copy asap..
Thank you for your extra efforts.
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DallasBlue
07-22 10:41 PM
http://news.newamericamedia.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=cb41f533d05500e4df73f 6995b41d0c4
http://www.alternet.org/immigration/90842/?ses=f07bc03dff3ecb7228ad411024be910f
Visa recapture legislation such as H.R. 5882, is "one of the few bills that have the actual opportunity of getting done this year because of bipartisan support." Narasaki said this is also an opportunity to hold Congress' "feet to the fire" and see if those who claim that they are for immigrants, just against illegal immigration, really mean what they say.
http://www.alternet.org/immigration/90842/?ses=f07bc03dff3ecb7228ad411024be910f
Visa recapture legislation such as H.R. 5882, is "one of the few bills that have the actual opportunity of getting done this year because of bipartisan support." Narasaki said this is also an opportunity to hold Congress' "feet to the fire" and see if those who claim that they are for immigrants, just against illegal immigration, really mean what they say.
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nc14
03-04 11:01 PM
I was amused and angry at the same time. I am just wondering if we can somehow pool money and one of us can get them started by sending a $2500 check and see where it goes.
Assuming thay the information they will share is what all of us are seeking, it is not going to be a bad deal if we can find 500 people willing to chip in for this initiative (optimist me :) ).
Assuming thay the information they will share is what all of us are seeking, it is not going to be a bad deal if we can find 500 people willing to chip in for this initiative (optimist me :) ).
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andyny73
07-05 08:14 AM
Hi guys,
I have just called the USCIS. They told me that the applications will not be rejected but just put on hold until our visa numbers will be avialiable ifor the nerw FY 2008.
In addition she told me that the Nebraska office is sending back the filing receipt to the applicants which it should not affect our h1-b visa status in case we are going to travel.
For the last part I do not believe her. Is there anyone else that can confirm that ?
Thank you.
Andrea
I have just called the USCIS. They told me that the applications will not be rejected but just put on hold until our visa numbers will be avialiable ifor the nerw FY 2008.
In addition she told me that the Nebraska office is sending back the filing receipt to the applicants which it should not affect our h1-b visa status in case we are going to travel.
For the last part I do not believe her. Is there anyone else that can confirm that ?
Thank you.
Andrea
jayleno
06-05 08:49 AM
I left it empty last time. It was approved. The only question I answered in Part 7 was "how many trips do you intend to use...".....I said multiple.
still waiting for an answer to my earlier qn...anybody else in same boat with an answer.?
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when 485 pending pple r requesting AP to travel out and return back.
the question: 3 on page 3 of the I-131 applicatin - "If the travel document will be delivered to an overseas office, where should the notice to pick up the document be sent:"
in part 7 of the application --> can it be left empty???
since we r expecting to AP approval to arrive by mail to our mailing address, can we leave this question 3 on page3/part 7 EMPTY?
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thanks
still waiting for an answer to my earlier qn...anybody else in same boat with an answer.?
************************************************** *****
when 485 pending pple r requesting AP to travel out and return back.
the question: 3 on page 3 of the I-131 applicatin - "If the travel document will be delivered to an overseas office, where should the notice to pick up the document be sent:"
in part 7 of the application --> can it be left empty???
since we r expecting to AP approval to arrive by mail to our mailing address, can we leave this question 3 on page3/part 7 EMPTY?
************************************************** *****
thanks
wahwah
04-16 10:21 PM
my gc process started in october 2001 but i have a PD of Jan 2003.
they are slow but they're good.
It depends on which office of Fragomen you are dealing with or should I say which attorney. One of the attorneys in DC office took 8-9 months to file my labor.
they are slow but they're good.
It depends on which office of Fragomen you are dealing with or should I say which attorney. One of the attorneys in DC office took 8-9 months to file my labor.
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